Came with claims
Voiced arguments. Came with grievance.
("One does not take an oath on the claim of a fool or a minor! Rav said: In the case of one who comes with the claim of his father" - Shevuot 42a; and similarly: "This is the end of this legend. And behold, the Sanhedrin and our master David did not say to Yoav that those commandments are not for generations, but they came with claims that they were the first to breach the fence" - Ramban's Hasagot to Sefer HaMitzvot, Shikchat HaLuyin)
Translation
Expression (Hebrew)
בָּא בִּטְעָנוֹת
Definition (Hebrew)
הִשְׁמִיעַ טְעָנוֹת. בָּא בִּטְרוּנְיָה.
("אֵין נִשְׁבָּעִין עַל טַעֲנַת שׁוֹטֶה וְקָטָן! אָמַר רַב: בָּבָא בְּטַעֲנַת אָבִיו"- שָׁבוּעוֹת מב ע"א, וְכֵן:"עַד כָּאן אַגָּדָה זוֹ. וְהִנֵּה הַסַּנְהֶדְרִין וַאֲדוֹנֵנוּ דָּוִד לֹא אָמְרוּ לְיוֹאָב שֶׁאֵין הַמִּצְווֹת הַהֵן לְדוֹרוֹת אֶלָּא בָּאוּ בִּטְעָנוֹת שֶׁהֵם פָּרְצוּ אֶת הַגָּדֵר תְּחִלָּה"- הַשָּׂגוֹת הָרַמְבָּ"ן לְסֵפֶר הַמִּצְווֹת שִׁכְחַת הַלָּאוִין)